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		<title>Comment on Private Escort by Peter</title>
		<link>http://liandradahl.com/blog/?p=776#comment-12698</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2013 20:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I´ll be eagerly waiting for your new phase as a Pro-Dom !</description>
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		<title>Comment on Turn the Cameras Off! by Liandra</title>
		<link>http://liandradahl.com/blog/?p=761#comment-12697</link>
		<dc:creator>Liandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 05:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh 3rd party your just being petulant because I&#039;ve made a point you know is true about your dishonesty with your wife but you don&#039;t want to openly concede it. You are not honest with your wife but you refuse to acknowledge that you have no right to claim the moral high ground you tried to assert over me. 

I never claimed to know you or to summarise your life. It was, in fact, you who did that of me and my life. I was merely interacting with the the ones you had presented here in your first comment with regard to waving the 50 years longevity flag as if it was in itself a sign of a happy relationship. We all know very well that your generation was effectively imprisoned in marriages, especially the women of your generation who were shamed and humiliated over marital status (often such &#039;social control&#039; attitudes are masked as concern) in ways that men were not and never have been. Interestingly that &quot;shaming&quot; behaviour is what your trying to do here in your first comment and you obviously have enjoyed a sense of entitlement to behaving in such a way for far too long. 

Love is not more important to me than honesty and integrity. We have different values. I do not think &#039;love&#039; makes it okay to be involved in prolonged deception of your spouse. You obviously do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh 3rd party your just being petulant because I&#8217;ve made a point you know is true about your dishonesty with your wife but you don&#8217;t want to openly concede it. You are not honest with your wife but you refuse to acknowledge that you have no right to claim the moral high ground you tried to assert over me. </p>
<p>I never claimed to know you or to summarise your life. It was, in fact, you who did that of me and my life. I was merely interacting with the the ones you had presented here in your first comment with regard to waving the 50 years longevity flag as if it was in itself a sign of a happy relationship. We all know very well that your generation was effectively imprisoned in marriages, especially the women of your generation who were shamed and humiliated over marital status (often such &#8216;social control&#8217; attitudes are masked as concern) in ways that men were not and never have been. Interestingly that &#8220;shaming&#8221; behaviour is what your trying to do here in your first comment and you obviously have enjoyed a sense of entitlement to behaving in such a way for far too long. </p>
<p>Love is not more important to me than honesty and integrity. We have different values. I do not think &#8216;love&#8217; makes it okay to be involved in prolonged deception of your spouse. You obviously do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Turn the Cameras Off! by JohnB</title>
		<link>http://liandradahl.com/blog/?p=761#comment-12696</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2013 21:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya sounds like a break has been a while coming :) Says a lot on the positive side, that you can push yourself that hard when you desire, but yea, got to also be able to look through that, and see if keeping on the same way is really going to make you happy.

Anyway, good postive post (strange to see negative comments on it tbh), glad you&#039;re coming around from that stress; take care, have fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya sounds like a break has been a while coming <img src='http://liandradahl.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Says a lot on the positive side, that you can push yourself that hard when you desire, but yea, got to also be able to look through that, and see if keeping on the same way is really going to make you happy.</p>
<p>Anyway, good postive post (strange to see negative comments on it tbh), glad you&#8217;re coming around from that stress; take care, have fun.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Turn the Cameras Off! by 3rdparty</title>
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		<dc:creator>3rdparty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2013 15:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of mote comments...first, I think I can say I know you better than you know me (us)as you have no qualms about sharing yourelf online in a most open fashion.  Next, you are a very negative person to suggest my brief comments summarize my existance, lifestyle, etc.
Finally, true commitment suggests a willingness to share the good as well as the difficult.  Right now, it&#039;s difficult...aging brings on issues that, for example, will not allow my partner to confirm or deny my statements to you.

Liandra, my comments may have been worded poorly enough to piss you off, but let me suggest that my intent (past, present and, I hope, future) was to initiate a dialogue that helps you move beyond so much defensive negativity.  Oops...there I did it again, didn&#039;t I?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of mote comments&#8230;first, I think I can say I know you better than you know me (us)as you have no qualms about sharing yourelf online in a most open fashion.  Next, you are a very negative person to suggest my brief comments summarize my existance, lifestyle, etc.<br />
Finally, true commitment suggests a willingness to share the good as well as the difficult.  Right now, it&#8217;s difficult&#8230;aging brings on issues that, for example, will not allow my partner to confirm or deny my statements to you.</p>
<p>Liandra, my comments may have been worded poorly enough to piss you off, but let me suggest that my intent (past, present and, I hope, future) was to initiate a dialogue that helps you move beyond so much defensive negativity.  Oops&#8230;there I did it again, didn&#8217;t I?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Turn the Cameras Off! by Liandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2013 13:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, only a fool would think that such a supercilious tone wouldn&#039;t hit a nerve. Do you know anyone that enjoys being talked down to? Apart from a number of other things you have assumed about me that I can&#039;t be arsed responding to I find it annoying how you assume that your goals in love and life are mine also when that is obviously not the case. If you know me at all you would know that at the very minimum. 

All your other nonsense aside the assumption that I&#039;m hoping for a relationship that will last me for the rest of my days is wrong. I am not looking for quantity I am looking for quality. I don&#039;t rate longevity by itself as anything to do with the qualities and experiences I am looking to share. Arranged marriages can last a very long time and love grows in them and surmounts all the same obstacles you and your spouse have but I wouldn&#039;t want a bar of it. I would happily be divorced 30 times than that. 

So, you did not answer my question. Did I hit a nerve in turn? Does your wife know that you&#039;ve followed me for years and you (though I would beg to differ) feel you know me well enough to give me a lecture. I would love to hear from her too if you are completely open and honest with her about all your sexual adventures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, only a fool would think that such a supercilious tone wouldn&#8217;t hit a nerve. Do you know anyone that enjoys being talked down to? Apart from a number of other things you have assumed about me that I can&#8217;t be arsed responding to I find it annoying how you assume that your goals in love and life are mine also when that is obviously not the case. If you know me at all you would know that at the very minimum. </p>
<p>All your other nonsense aside the assumption that I&#8217;m hoping for a relationship that will last me for the rest of my days is wrong. I am not looking for quantity I am looking for quality. I don&#8217;t rate longevity by itself as anything to do with the qualities and experiences I am looking to share. Arranged marriages can last a very long time and love grows in them and surmounts all the same obstacles you and your spouse have but I wouldn&#8217;t want a bar of it. I would happily be divorced 30 times than that. </p>
<p>So, you did not answer my question. Did I hit a nerve in turn? Does your wife know that you&#8217;ve followed me for years and you (though I would beg to differ) feel you know me well enough to give me a lecture. I would love to hear from her too if you are completely open and honest with her about all your sexual adventures.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Turn the Cameras Off! by 3rdparty</title>
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		<dc:creator>3rdparty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2013 04:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like I hit a nerve...you&#039;ve hit it...honesty, openness, but most of all there&#039;s that little thing called love.  We can&#039;t claim perfection, but we certainly work at it everyday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like I hit a nerve&#8230;you&#8217;ve hit it&#8230;honesty, openness, but most of all there&#8217;s that little thing called love.  We can&#8217;t claim perfection, but we certainly work at it everyday!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Turn the Cameras Off! by Liandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2013 07:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder... does your wife of 50 years know that you have monitored my activities over the years and feel that you know a porn performer? Do you have such an honest and open relationship with that kind of full disclosure that I desire and strive for? If you do then perhaps we could talk and I would take some advice from you. However, if you don&#039;t and your marriage is based on omission and deception then I&#039;d rather you didn&#039;t act like you know any better what it takes to have a happy relationship with love, intimacy, honesty and integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder&#8230; does your wife of 50 years know that you have monitored my activities over the years and feel that you know a porn performer? Do you have such an honest and open relationship with that kind of full disclosure that I desire and strive for? If you do then perhaps we could talk and I would take some advice from you. However, if you don&#8217;t and your marriage is based on omission and deception then I&#8217;d rather you didn&#8217;t act like you know any better what it takes to have a happy relationship with love, intimacy, honesty and integrity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Turn the Cameras Off! by Liandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2013 07:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your comment condescending and sanctimonious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your comment condescending and sanctimonious.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Turn the Cameras Off! by 3rdparty</title>
		<link>http://liandradahl.com/blog/?p=761#comment-12690</link>
		<dc:creator>3rdparty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 23:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a male in my 8th decade and have been with my partner for almost 50 years.  Having read your Blog entries and monitored your various other online activities over the years, I feel I know just a little bit about you.  You are not a very patient person and if things change and if that change is not exactly to your liking, you can&#039;t adjust or deal with it.  You have particiated in a business and chosen a lifestyle which proclaim changes in the loudest possible way.  I truly hope you are able to make the world, noted in your final paragraph, last a little longer than previous ones.  

Finally, Liandra, I sense your genration is not particularly anchored and commitments are not something taken seriously in many cases...marriage is one such commitment.  My generation took such a little more seriously and worked through issues...some of which took years and much love to address.  I don&#039;t mean to suggest in any way that our generation is without fault...afterall, some things we&#039;ve done may have created the scenario by which you found yourself.  For whatever role that played in your previous, difficult circumstances, I am sorry.  Now, make this &quot;love&quot; thing a real commitment and get on with it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a male in my 8th decade and have been with my partner for almost 50 years.  Having read your Blog entries and monitored your various other online activities over the years, I feel I know just a little bit about you.  You are not a very patient person and if things change and if that change is not exactly to your liking, you can&#8217;t adjust or deal with it.  You have particiated in a business and chosen a lifestyle which proclaim changes in the loudest possible way.  I truly hope you are able to make the world, noted in your final paragraph, last a little longer than previous ones.  </p>
<p>Finally, Liandra, I sense your genration is not particularly anchored and commitments are not something taken seriously in many cases&#8230;marriage is one such commitment.  My generation took such a little more seriously and worked through issues&#8230;some of which took years and much love to address.  I don&#8217;t mean to suggest in any way that our generation is without fault&#8230;afterall, some things we&#8217;ve done may have created the scenario by which you found yourself.  For whatever role that played in your previous, difficult circumstances, I am sorry.  Now, make this &#8220;love&#8221; thing a real commitment and get on with it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on No Need to be Such a Sensitive Cunt by JohnB</title>
		<link>http://liandradahl.com/blog/?p=731#comment-12689</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 10:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, the formatting in my comment, somehow ended up chopping most of it; here it is again:
Was in a discussion on a forum which touches on prostitution as a whole, and while I agree there should be no stigma about it (least of all with sex workers themselves), I think the demand for prostitution itself is a sign of wider societal problems, which need to be specifically addressed themselves.

I don&#039;t know the prevalence of this (suspect it&#039;s high though), but there are people who seek out prostitutes mainly from having lack of other options, and either wanting to experience intimacy or just wondering what it is like; often, this is comorbid with mental illness of some form or other.


I think in a society where sexual and relationship attitudes were more relaxed in general (much more so than now), and if there were proper services available to help properly treat all mental health problems (most countries have abysmal mental health services), and try to properly alleviate the remaining societal stigma surrounding it;.

If all that were the case, I don&#039;t think prostitution would have a lot of demand, and maybe wouldn&#039;t seem like the most available option for some, in cases of mental health issues (or who knows, maybe it could even be used as a part of specific kinds of therapy...offhand I much better like the idea of it as a &lt;i&gt;rehabilitative&lt;/i&gt; service, for those that would benefit from that).


This isn&#039;t a topic I&#039;ve really had that much detailed thought about before tbh, but it raises the question (just throwing this out there; I don&#039;t have moral arguments against paying for sex, even if wouldn&#039;t myself), considering that many people may seek out prostitutes due to mental health (or other) issues, preventing them from having (or seeking out) other opportunities, is it right to charge them for sex like that?

On the one hand it may help them, give them an avenue for experiencing physical intimacy where otherwise they wouldn&#039;t, but on the other hand, for people who may have no other such outlet, it could both be harmful to them emotionally (intimacy reduced to financial transaction; wanting emotional intimacy but finding it is still closed to them) and mentally (possibly growing used to seeking out this path of intimacy regularly, to the exclusion of working on their larger underlying problems), and would it not also be indirectly taking advantage of their vulnerability in this regard?

I&#039;m not trying to judge with any of the above arguments (and while focusing on this one thing, not trying to ignore ethical issues on the punter side as well; judging from blog entry, many don&#039;t have much respect for women), as I am not set on any of these arguments, just throwing them out there for discussion.
While I certainly think selling and buy sex should be perfectly legal (and not looked down on either), there still seem to be deeper ethical issues that are a bit complicated/tricky.


That said, an off license doesn&#039;t have to be concerned about unknowingly selling alcohol to an alcoholic, and alcoholism is a wider problem that should be tackled separate to that; so analogously, a person selling sex maybe need not be concerned about clients issues (it&#039;s the clients choice in the end), and the clients issues should (at least) be treated as the wider societal problems they are, but I don&#039;t know, I still feel that so long as these wider societal problems &lt;i&gt;exist&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;aren&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; being dealt with, there probably is room for more ethical consideration/burden in that regard on the sex workers side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, the formatting in my comment, somehow ended up chopping most of it; here it is again:<br />
Was in a discussion on a forum which touches on prostitution as a whole, and while I agree there should be no stigma about it (least of all with sex workers themselves), I think the demand for prostitution itself is a sign of wider societal problems, which need to be specifically addressed themselves.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the prevalence of this (suspect it&#8217;s high though), but there are people who seek out prostitutes mainly from having lack of other options, and either wanting to experience intimacy or just wondering what it is like; often, this is comorbid with mental illness of some form or other.</p>
<p>I think in a society where sexual and relationship attitudes were more relaxed in general (much more so than now), and if there were proper services available to help properly treat all mental health problems (most countries have abysmal mental health services), and try to properly alleviate the remaining societal stigma surrounding it;.</p>
<p>If all that were the case, I don&#8217;t think prostitution would have a lot of demand, and maybe wouldn&#8217;t seem like the most available option for some, in cases of mental health issues (or who knows, maybe it could even be used as a part of specific kinds of therapy&#8230;offhand I much better like the idea of it as a <i>rehabilitative</i> service, for those that would benefit from that).</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a topic I&#8217;ve really had that much detailed thought about before tbh, but it raises the question (just throwing this out there; I don&#8217;t have moral arguments against paying for sex, even if wouldn&#8217;t myself), considering that many people may seek out prostitutes due to mental health (or other) issues, preventing them from having (or seeking out) other opportunities, is it right to charge them for sex like that?</p>
<p>On the one hand it may help them, give them an avenue for experiencing physical intimacy where otherwise they wouldn&#8217;t, but on the other hand, for people who may have no other such outlet, it could both be harmful to them emotionally (intimacy reduced to financial transaction; wanting emotional intimacy but finding it is still closed to them) and mentally (possibly growing used to seeking out this path of intimacy regularly, to the exclusion of working on their larger underlying problems), and would it not also be indirectly taking advantage of their vulnerability in this regard?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to judge with any of the above arguments (and while focusing on this one thing, not trying to ignore ethical issues on the punter side as well; judging from blog entry, many don&#8217;t have much respect for women), as I am not set on any of these arguments, just throwing them out there for discussion.<br />
While I certainly think selling and buy sex should be perfectly legal (and not looked down on either), there still seem to be deeper ethical issues that are a bit complicated/tricky.</p>
<p>That said, an off license doesn&#8217;t have to be concerned about unknowingly selling alcohol to an alcoholic, and alcoholism is a wider problem that should be tackled separate to that; so analogously, a person selling sex maybe need not be concerned about clients issues (it&#8217;s the clients choice in the end), and the clients issues should (at least) be treated as the wider societal problems they are, but I don&#8217;t know, I still feel that so long as these wider societal problems <i>exist</i> and <i>aren&#8217;t</i> being dealt with, there probably is room for more ethical consideration/burden in that regard on the sex workers side.</p>
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